http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#01e04ffc-ca30-47f9-8e74-619a6dc2effd I am deeply interested in working with insect magick based on the system that Bertiaux has layed on spider magick workings with the 8 Universal energies i am sure some have seen it I feel the insect world has alot to teach, any information the subject of insect magick would be great as well i am deeply interested in the kult of ku this another deep subject comments are welcome Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:28:55 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#01e04ffc-ca30-47f9-8e74-619a6dc2effd jon smith 2008-06-21T15:28:55Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#38eea52d-bf49-4d75-a28a-fce6b77f02f9 obvioulsy I could not see that the posts were going through hence the slight re-write and redundancy. all best, rr. Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:57:38 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#38eea52d-bf49-4d75-a28a-fce6b77f02f9 revVrob 2008-06-20T01:57:38Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#9dd85564-5f85-4dc7-af9d-75126196d4db Hi Parad, Thanks for posting more info which makes the whole thing seem somewhat more tangible. I'm OK with some things being difficult to find (even online) but when you really want to know info and are willing to dig ideally you want to be able to get there online or off without unnecessary obstacles. I'm glad you have the material, now I just want to change things so that I have more material on this subject. It would be of value because of a long relationship with a totem animal insect and the desire to expand the awareness around that relationship in different ways. I look forward to you follow up and any further posts and if you want to send me any info by direct messaging, that would be very helpful as well. cheers revVrob Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:54:52 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#9dd85564-5f85-4dc7-af9d-75126196d4db revVrob 2008-06-19T15:54:52Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#191bc44f-6fd4-492f-92f2-e248c0be4591 Hi Parad, Thanks for posting more info which makes the whole thing seem somewhat more tangible. I'm OK with some things being difficult to find (even online) but when you really want to know info and are willing to dig ideally you want to be able to get there online or off without unnecessary obstacles. I'm glad you have the material, now I just want to change things so that I have more material on this subject. It would be of value because of a long relationship with a totem animal insect and the desire to expand the awareness around that relationship in different ways. I look forward to you follow up and any further posts and if you want to send me any info by direct messaging, that would be very helpful as well. cheers revVrob Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:54:27 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#191bc44f-6fd4-492f-92f2-e248c0be4591 revVrob 2008-06-19T15:54:27Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#b54cd660-3d67-4fab-9e43-7532643eac4a Hi Parad, Thanks for posting more info which makes the whole thing seem somewhat more tangible. I'm OK with some things being difficult to find (even online) but when you really want to know info and are willing to dig ideally you want to be able to get there online or off without unnecessary obstacles. I'm glad you have the material, now I just want to change things so that I have more material on this subject. It would be of value because of a long relationship with a totem animal insect and the desire to expand the awareness around that relationship in different ways. I look forward to you follow up and any further posts and if you want to send me any info by direct messaging, that would be very helpful as well. cheers revVrob Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:52:39 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#b54cd660-3d67-4fab-9e43-7532643eac4a revVrob 2008-06-19T15:52:39Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#29d8e2ae-3827-46c4-949d-8cbc237b6b2d thanks for the second post parad... gives more weight to the idea and the background... I don't mind that some things aren't easily googled but when you want to learn and study something sometimes it's frustrating when you can't get to the needed materials. I'm glad you've got them but I don't and I'd like to change that so I have them too. Main reason is a life long strong totem insect and a strong value to being able to learn more about and develop that relationship. Looking forward to any more info you post or please send me a direct message if you can direct me to any source material. Thanks revVrob Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:54:51 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#29d8e2ae-3827-46c4-949d-8cbc237b6b2d revVrob 2008-06-19T03:54:51Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#240c8d2b-32b6-47b2-88a3-7d08739dfc35 "grants work only seems to make sense when you have the full story " Perfect point. Thanks Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:11:11 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#240c8d2b-32b6-47b2-88a3-7d08739dfc35 Parad 2008-06-18T08:11:11Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#3254e6f3-d468-4b3d-87cc-a3ed97e4c3b0 these are the remaning grant files anybody who has these it would be great to come by grants work only seems to make sense when you have the full story Hecate's Fountain Outer Gateways Beyond the Mauve Zone The Ninth Arch Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:15:49 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#3254e6f3-d468-4b3d-87cc-a3ed97e4c3b0 jon smith 2008-06-13T14:15:49Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#2979f1c6-a837-4121-8366-d6270d0a21e0 I have a rare translation of some Li Shi Chen The internet is powerful but not sure how many Clasical medicine texts are on there. PRobably in Chinese. I'll also re read the chapter on hecate's fountian. I found the information to apply quite well when I read it before. The beauty of Grant is that it translates well into the systems the reader is working with. Wade-Gilles phonetic transcription, used by Crowley, Grant and others of that era uses the term KU while the same book using PinYin spell it gu. I'll write Heiner tomorrow , the guy who wrote the Gu Medicine article you probably found online. If I am mistaken he will correct me and I'll post. It is an extensive system and I know at least one other person who has studied it. I am reluctant to give away knowledge to strangers on the internet but one thing I feel comfortable recommending is the research on insects (and spiders) done in homeopathy. Massimo MANGIALAVORI, MD will give you an amazing sensitivity to the vibrations of spider conciousness (get it? it's a joke. Sensitivity to vibrations of spiders.) http://www.minimum.com/b.asp?a=spider-mangialavori I'm sure any number of Thelemites will tell you ways to invoke or evoke Sung Beetle consciousness. Praying mantis kung fu is one way of studying the Mantis. Although I love this group I do like that there are still some things that are not easily Googled! Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:04:17 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#2979f1c6-a837-4121-8366-d6270d0a21e0 Parad 2008-06-07T09:04:17Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#0c061334-20c8-465b-9675-92c406fc21c0 I appreciate your referencing the idea of insect magic and am willing to accept that the information may be rare... but all three of the examples you gave do not pan out in searches. Can you be any more forth right with useful accessible information. Thank you. RR. Gu Medicine is a Chinese Medical theory that relates to specific Chong worm / parasite, conditions and treatments - sometimes refered to as invisible so maybe spirit... Extensive searches on Li Shi Chen and various spellings of that name with Gu and insects show only his extensive listing of plants to deal with spirits, and no mention of insect spirits... Kenneth Grant on Cult of Ku - refers to a snake but no mention of insects.... "A little known aspect of Spare, an aspect that links up with his friendship with Thomas Burke,(20) reveals the fact that a curious Chinese occult society- known as the Cult of the Ku- flourished in London in the nineteen-twenties. Its headquarters may have been in Peking, Spare did not say, perhaps he did not know; but its London offshoot was not in Limehouse as one might have expected, but in Stockwell, not far from a studio-flat that Spare shared with a friend. A secret session of the cult of the Ku was witnessed by Spare, who seems to have been the only European ever to have gained admittance. He does, in fact, seem to have been the only European apart from Burke who had so much as heard of the Cult. Spare's experience is of exceptional interest by reason of its close approximation to a form of dream-control into which he was initiated many years earlier by Witch Paterson. (20) 1886-1945. The word Ku has several meanings in Chinese, but in this particular case it denotes a peculiar form of sorcery involving elements which Spare had already incorporated in his conception of the New Sexuality. The Adepts of Ku worshipped a serpent goddess in the form of a woman dedicated to the Cult. During an elaborate ritual she would become possessed, with the result that she threw off, or emanated, multiple forms of the goddess as sentient shadows endowed with all the charms possessed by her human representative. These shadow-women, impelled by some subtle law of attraction, gravitated to one or other of the devotees who sat in a drowsy condition around the entranced priestess. Sexual congress with these shadows then occurred and it was the beginning of a sinister form of dream-conrtol involving journeys and encounters in infernal regions. The Ku would seem to be a form of the Fire Snake exteriorized astrally as a shadow-woman or succubus, congress with which enabled the devotee to reify his 'inherent dream'. She was known as the 'whore of hell' and her function was analogous to that of the Scarlet Woman of Crowley's Cult, the Suvasini of the Tantric Kaula Circle, and the Fiendess of the Cult of the Black Snake. The Chinese Ku, or harlot of hell, is a shadowy embodiment of subconscious desires(21) concentrated in the alluringly sensuous form of the Serpent of Shadow Goddess." Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:21:34 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#0c061334-20c8-465b-9675-92c406fc21c0 revVrob 2008-06-03T06:21:34Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#30f0ada0-e8b9-4611-bc1d-122bb8962819 There is a tiny bit of a teaser in a kenneth Grant book. The chapter is called the Cult of Ku. The Term Gu refers to a worm spirit. Li Shi Chen writes about inslaving insects sould to do battle with other Magicinas insect spirits. I have been focusing on medicine since battling diseases is great practical experience to deal with non human residing spirits. Fri, 30 May 2008 07:28:50 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#30f0ada0-e8b9-4611-bc1d-122bb8962819 Parad 2008-05-30T07:28:50Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#189d3b78-ac7d-4c10-88e8-46751bdaf84f I'd been interested in reading or hearing more about insect magic and any recommended sources. cheers RR. Mon, 26 May 2008 22:17:43 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#189d3b78-ac7d-4c10-88e8-46751bdaf84f revVrob 2008-05-26T22:17:43Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#f238fc01-5182-4b02-84d9-203e9625843d That sounds very interesting. I would love to listen to you and / or get in touch with some of that material of yours. Maybe in the end I might be able to help you out in one or another way. I would love if we could go deeper in that subject, maybe write me on ja@ichbinadrian.ch? deepest regards Wed, 21 May 2008 20:06:49 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#f238fc01-5182-4b02-84d9-203e9625843d $item.owner.firstName 2008-05-21T20:06:49Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#642649de-0a80-4acf-aa12-35952edb5ba8 My magick name is Insect Witch. I am working on a book of Insect magick. I have some VERY rare books regarding this and have been studying this for about 8 years. Wed, 21 May 2008 03:35:23 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#642649de-0a80-4acf-aa12-35952edb5ba8 Parad 2008-05-21T03:35:23Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#39cfbd2e-4150-4280-8d78-8bcdbefc6ad3 i have an insect as a totem animal but that is just because it came to me and I went with it... it's been very great. Mon, 19 May 2008 18:26:20 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#39cfbd2e-4150-4280-8d78-8bcdbefc6ad3 revVrob 2008-05-19T18:26:20Z http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#6fdf828b-839f-4a80-bad4-f34a099e1a6d I just wanted to seek out for some people who have experience with insects in any way. They are "bugging" me lately, in a positive way. But besides the insect tribe in Papua New Guinea I didn't discover much yet. There is a nice text on sacred-texts with a connection from Shintoism to insects. Anybody any stories, any sources of knowledge to insects & magick. Mon, 19 May 2008 16:36:56 GMT http://chaoslibrary.tribe.net/thread/77d23a59-4b4c-4218-92bd-2158df2a7cbc#6fdf828b-839f-4a80-bad4-f34a099e1a6d $item.owner.firstName 2008-05-19T16:36:56Z